| DISCIPLESHIPWhen 
is it Right To Fight? Part OneBy 
Pastor Rick WarrenSaddleback Church
 
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- I want to look at what the Bible says about some of the questions about 
war. Most of us have been glued to the tv or radio this last week as the war broke 
out in the Gulf. We've been warned that it may be a long war. I'm sure it's raised 
many questions in your mind as it has in mine to go back and say, "What does the 
Bible say about war?" I thought the perfect thing to do today would be to spend 
some time praying for the people in the Gulf. So we want to do that at the end 
of this service. I want us to look at a few verses and then we'll pray together. 
We're going to look a; What is the real cause of war? Is it ever right to fight? 
Will the world ever have permanent peace? Is this the final war? How should we 
respond during war?  Responses:  1. We need to pray. So we're going 
to do that this morning.  2. We need to trust God. When things are out of 
our control, we need to trust God.  3. We need to seek peace. The Bible 
says seek peace.  4. We need to support each other.  Looking at the 
very first verse on your outline, Romans 12:18 "If it is possible, as far as it 
depends on you, live at peace with everyone." Circle "if it is possible". I think 
the Bible is very practical here. It says "as much as it depends on you... as 
far as it's possible on your behalf, live at peace with everybody." However, I 
think this is also implying that sometimes it is impossible to live at peace with 
someone. Have you ever met somebody that, no matter what you did, you just couldn't 
get along with them? No matter what you did, they could not be appeased. The Bible 
says, "If it is possible." If somebody abused my children and abused my wife, 
I wouldn't have peace with them at all. I don't think God would expect me to have 
peace with them.  We're going to look today at these questions about war. 
 1. WHAT IS THE REAL CAUSE OF WAR?  The Bible says that most wars 
are caused by two things: selfishness and pride. Selfishness and pride are at 
the root of most wars. James 4:1-2 (Jerusalem Bible) "Where do these wars and 
battles between yourselves first start? Isn't it precisely in the desires fighting 
inside your own selves? You want something and you haven't got it; so you're prepared 
to kill. You have an ambition you can't satisfy, so you fight to get your way 
by force."  It's selfishness. I think we've got a clear example here in 
the Gulf. Saddam wanted something that wasn't his. He wanted oil fields in Kuwait 
so he just took them. They weren't his but he took them anyway.  Whenever 
there is a battle between two nations, a battle between two businesses, a battle 
between an employer and employee, labor and management, husband and wife, parent 
and child, whenever there's conflict, somebody (maybe both) is exhibiting selfishness 
or pride. I want my way. You want your way. We're going to have conflict.  I 
remember reading a story about President Lincoln. He was walking down the street 
one day with his two boys and they were both crying and frustrated. One man said, 
"What's wrong with your little boys?" He said, "Nothing, just what's wrong with 
the world. I have three walnuts and each wants two."  I read once where 
two cities in Italy fought 22 years over an unreturned bucket. It was a 22 year 
war over an unreturned bucket!  The Bible says in Proverbs 13:10 "The effect 
of pride is fighting." This was the very first verse my wife and I memorized when 
we got married. "Only by pride comes contention." Pride only causes fighting. 
When you think of sin, what's the middle letter of "sin"? -- "I". When I'm in 
charge, when I want my way, when I demand that I be the center of the universe, 
when I get my way, sin's going to happen. And pride causes a lot of problems. 
 How many times in the last five months had delegations gone to Iraq to 
say, "Why don't you back down? Why don't you back out?" Sadam has basically said 
in pride, "I'd rather fight than switch! I'd rather go to war than back down and 
admit that I was wrong in taking this land."  Proverbs 13:10 (New English 
Bible) "A brainless fool causes strife by his presumption."  2. IS IT EVER 
RIGHT TO FIGHT?  Yes. There are times when it is the lesser of two evils. 
There are times when it is appropriate and there are times when it is inappropriate. 
Ecclesiastes 3:8 "There is a time for war and a time for peace."  The Bible 
is very realistic. Sometimes war is the right thing. Sometimes war is the wrong 
thing. "There is a time for war and there is a time for peace." The Bible is very 
realistic about this. There are many, many examples in the Bible where God commanded 
a war, where God said, "Go to war!" When you look at the great heroes of the faith 
in Hebrews 11 -- Joshua, David, Gideon, Samson -- these guys were all warriors. 
When you look at the Bible you find that sometimes war was the right thing to 
do.  When you study the ministry of Jesus you see a number of things. In 
the first place, He never told a Roman soldier to leave the army. If Jesus had 
been a total pacifist, He would have said every time He saw a soldier, "Leave 
your army! Come follow Me." But not once did He ever say it was morally wrong 
for them to be in the service. In fact, in Matthew 24:6, He said there will always 
be wars in the world until the Prince of Peace comes back. There will always be 
wars.  Wasn't Jesus a pacifist? I don't think He was. Twice in the New Testament, 
He cleansed the temple by force. It says He made a whip and He went in and He 
cleansed the temple. He didn't politely ask them, "Would you guys, pretty please 
get out of here?" He forced them out. They were in the wrong place. So He forced 
them out.  One time Jesus told His disciples to sell their coats and buy 
a sword. Luke 22:36.  I want to challenge you to do a study in the Bible 
of the word "resist". Make a study of all the things that we are to resist in 
the New Testament, that we're not to simply passively accept evil, but that we 
are to resist it. And how are we to do that?  The Bible says there is a 
time for war and a time for peace. Then the question becomes, "When's the right 
time?" How do you know a good war from a bad war? Two or three times the Bible 
says we ought to fight:  1. In order to preserve freedom. There are many 
examples in the Bible of this. Once God told Joshua to wipe out the Midianites, 
they were very oppressive. They were very evil. He was afraid that they would 
be oppressed by them. They had all kinds of evil practices like throwing babies 
into the fire. It was a terrible, atrocious culture. In Numbers 32, God gets very 
upset, in fact He expresses anger, at two tribes in Israel, because they wouldn't 
go to war. Moses says to these two tribes, "What are you going to do? Just sit 
here while the rest of your brothers go to war? Aren't you going to participate?" 
That's different than a lot of people here.  You have to decide what's worth 
dying for. If you don't know what's worth dying for, you don't know what's worth 
living for. There are some things that are worse than war.  Many times in 
the Old Testament, God told the Israelites to go liberate a certain group of people. 
 2. In order to defend innocent people. Proverbs 21:15 "When justice is 
done it brings joy to the righteous but terror to evildoers." Circle "justice". 
Christians are not just interested in peace. We want peace, but we want peace 
with justice. Peace at any price is not peace. Peace at any price is appeasement. 
God says that God is not only a God of peace but He is a God of justice. Things 
should be done right. That's why the Civil War was fought. Blacks were being treated 
unjustly. So there had to come force, to force people to treat them justly. Somebody 
said that all that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. 
We must do justice.  John Stewart Mills said, "A man who has nothing which 
he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares about more than his personal 
safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free."  3. In 
order to stop the spread of evil. The Bible makes very clear that God has authorized 
the government to enforce the law and punish offenders. Romans 13:4 (Jerusalem 
Bible and New International Version) "Government is there to serve God for your 
benefit. If you break the law however, you may well have fear. He does not bear 
the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of justice to bring punishment 
on the wrongdoers."  Three facts of life: We live in a fallen world. Every 
person has sinned. And wherever there is sin, people hurt each other. So there 
must be laws enacted to prevent people from hurting each other. God has authorized 
law and government as part of life. He started by giving us the Ten Commandments. 
"You shall do this and you shall not do this..." God has established in a fallen 
world where people are not perfect that there has to be laws. God has authorized 
government to enforce those laws, because if there's no enforcement, the laws 
are worthless.  It says if you're doing good you don't have to fear the 
law, you don't have to fear government. "If you break the law however you may 
well have fear." Have you ever been driving down the freeway and saw a red light 
in back of you and all of a sudden you were overcome with fear? Then it went on 
past you! Why did you get uptight? Because you know you have a guilty conscience. 
If you never broke the law, you'd never be afraid of law enforcement. The Bible 
says that God has established government to be the agent of enforcement to maintain 
the peace, because we live in a world where people will hurt each other. So God 
says there are laws.  For instance, the eighth commandment, "Thou shalt 
not steal." That means you have a right to private property. So do other people. 
Most of the world would agree that Saddam decided, "I want that down there in 
Kuwait so I'm just going to steal it. I'll just take it by force because I want 
it." So he's broken some international laws. One law that says you don't steal 
somebody else's country. Good law! The whole world agrees with this except Saddam 
and a couple of kooks! You don't go in and take over somebody's country by force. 
We shouldn't do it. They shouldn't do it. So the Bible says there are agents to 
bring about punishments for wrongdoers.  "Doesn't the sixth commandment 
say, `Thou shalt not kill.'" No it doesn't. It says "Thou shalt not murder." The 
word is used 47 times in the Bible and it always means murder. Is there a difference 
between killing and murder? Absolutely. C.S. Lewis said, "All killing is no more 
murder than all sexual intercourse is adultery." There is a difference. Many times 
in the Old Testament, God commanded capital punishment for certain kinds of crimes. 
 When is it right? To bring about justice. To preserve freedom. To reduce 
evil in the world.  When 
is it Right to Fight, Part Two 
  Article 
by Rick Warren, Saddleback Church. Rick Warren is the founding pastor of Saddleback 
Church in Lake Forest, CA., a congregation that now averages 16,000 in attendance 
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